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marybeth: stopping by wto say hi. I went to your website and signed your guestbook. I also wanted to let you know I got your email. Oh yeah I seen the link you had for the amish books and I read those alot and I also have hers too ..Well it was nice to be here again. Hugs
Gina: Hi Jerry! I finally got you added to my friends' list. Sorry about that taking so long!! :-P
shelli: Hi Jerry, I posted in your comment section.
Shelli: Hi Jerry! I hope you are doing well. Haven't seen much of you lately. Gina has a prayer request posted on her site.
Kohl's: happy valentines day
marybeth: Back for another visit. Love yor writings and hope you will post more soon. Very good.. Enjoyed being here and will check back in a day or 2. Hugs to you and God Bless
Gina: Hi Jerry! thanks so much for your kind and encouraging words at my blog! you always bring a smile to my face! and it was great reading a recent post of yours'! I like the analogy between light and dark, hot and cold to explain good and evil.
Shelli: Oops, I put the wrong link address.
Shelli: Hmmm, I wonder why that is. The text shows in black on a green background for me. I'll change the background color, it's been black for a long time now.
marybeth: had a wonderful time browsing your pages.. drop by and say hi sometime....
Shelli: Hi Jerry, Merry Christmas. Thanks for posting again, I like hearing what you have to say.
Gina: Hi Jerry! I am letting you know that I am sort of back! Come visit me- I miss your posts! Thank you for the occasional "checking in" on me while I was gone. It meant a lot! God bless!
Shelli: Hi Jerry, I tried to post, but it didn't take. I'm back on on Brave Journal. I'll post as time allows.
jmw: To grab hold of YOUR value in Christ Jesus is the greatest thing to know.
Ravi Philemon: Very interesting thoughts. Please check us out as well.
Jerry: Kasi, thanks for the visit and comment. Please visit my website by clicking on my name at the begining of this post.
Kasi: This is the most deep down thing i have seen written in a long tine.
shelli: hi! I thought that you weren't around anymore. I hope that life is going well for you.
Hailey: Hey, cool journal, stop by mine sometime!
kay: Hi, I was out looking at journals and came across yours. I'll be back again. Have a good day!
Milton: Jerry may I add you to my friends list. Milton
Milton: Jerry, I am so sorry I never got your post of your comments. I will come back and read your journal. Also Thank you for finding that verse for me. God bless. Milton
Shelli: I' m so sorry Jerry. I will certainly pray for the situation. I wish I'd stopped by sooner.
Jerry: Hi Shelli, I'm eager to post again and I certainly do not lack topics. However, I have a family crisis at the moment that has my full attention. We have a very , critically injured family member whose wife has curtailed all visitation by family. Long story with much bitterness I fear. Need your prayers.
shelli: HI Jerry! I'm eager to see a new article here!How have you been?
Jerry: Hi Corina...Thanks for dropping by. I have been a "Called and Ordained" servant of the Word for over 20 yrs. Please, come back.
corina: hi there...came across your journal while blog hopping. I thought your username was interesting: "CalledServent" ~ just curious: What particular area of ministry do you believe God has called you to (since ALL Christians are "Called") Stop by some time...God BLESS.
Jerry: Good to hear from you again Shelli. Thank you for the Christmas greeting. I emailed one to you.
shelli: Hello Jerry!Just stopping in to wish you a Merry Christmas.
Jerry: Hi Storm, and thanks for the tag. While I believe in charity the year round, I certainly do not advocate the abandonment of our traditional celebrations of Christmas. Hope you will come back often. Merry Christmas!
Storm: Hi, just found your site in the directory. We decided several years ago not to do the "traditional" Christmas and do the give giving all year long. People have found it strange, but after they hear that the real gift of Christ is all year long, several others have joined in the year-long celebration. Great site, I will check back again!
shelli: Thank you Jerry. Happy Thanksgiving and God bless you.
Jerry: Shelli: Very courageous and honorable. Thank you. Apology accepted. Let it trouble you no longer. May you and your family have a blessed Thanksgiving Day. The peace of the Lord be with you always.
shelli: well I realize that this will be beside the point, but I wanted to apologize for jumping the gun. It has been bothering me all night, so I thought I'd come here and get it off my chest. Have a great Thanksgiving!
shelli: Hey Jerry, I emailed you. Thanks for responding
Jerry: Hi Shelli, Again, thanks for your comments and suggestions.I am a called and ordained servant of the Word, have preached the gospel of Christ, taught many adult Bible classes and participated with many denominations in the past twenty years. Also, I have done very extensive research on the origins of nearly all denominations as well as their founding theologians. So, it is with some understanding that I address these matters.I have included my email address instead of a URL. If you care to, p
shelli: Yep, I should have just written a regular comment, sorry....but instead being good by repetition. I suggest that you take a few minutes and listen to some of the sermons our pastor gives and/or attend one of these churches before you pass judgement.
shelli: Hey, also I read your article on the mega churches, mine is sort of large, I couldn't tell you for sure how many members there are, but it is pretty big. Have you taken time to listen to any of the pastor's messages or the bible class teachings? It might help you to see that even in these "free services" God's word is taught, and though we don't have a great deal of response like the liturgical servces, we do respond. I used to be Methodist and really never felt that I was responding to God b
shelli: Hey Jerry,I read your article on testimonies and wholeheartedly agree. Though it always causes pain for me to tell the world what kind of sinner I was (pride of course) it IS by the grace of God that I am no longer that person. I am saved only by the grace of God and not because of my own power. I had never heard of testimonies until I came to my current church. I went to lots searching for God, and ended up at this one.
Jerry: Hi Shelli, Thanks for dropping in and letting me know you are looking for something to digest. I never tire of writing for Christians and there is plenty to write about. However, I write in several places. Thanks for the encouragement and your interest.
shelli: Hi Jerry, Thanks for the tag. When are we going to get a new article tocomment on here? Have a great Day!!

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Tuesday, October 4th 2005

11:09 AM

Spirituality; Biblical or Pagan

Spiritual v Religious
The phrase, "I am spiritual, but not religious" seems to be thrown around quite freely these days. I hear it all the time. People offer this statement up-front and unsolicited, as if it had redeeming qualities. To the folks that use it, it seems to qualify them as one of the "good guys."
With the increased use of this phrase, and since I did hear it again just within the past couple of days, I thought it needed some consideration. Is it just a cliché or does it bear any significance to what they believe and the way they worship their creator? What do these, seemingly, well-meaning folks intend by this statement? And, equally important, does the spirituality they claim measure up to Jesus' statement in the gospel of John that we must be born again spiritually to see the Kingdom of God? Or, is it more of the sort that the apostle Paul condemns in the first chapter of his epistle to the Romans where he says their misguided spirituality has led to worshiping the creature instead of the creator?
Indeed, many of us have learned from our secular history classes, as well as the Bible, of people who worship the spirits of birds, bears, buffaloes and many other animals and gods made with their own hands (idols) which are not gods at all. Some even worship satan. This practice goes on even today with folks worshipping the sun, moon and even the earth itself; worshipping the creation instead of the Creator who lives forever and ever. Amen!
Those who do these things consider themselves to be quite spiritual, but Paul tells us that their foolish hearts were darkened and professing themselves to be wise, they became fools.
In this same realm of confusion lurks the idea that traditional worship, with a liturgical service, Hymnal and organ, should be put away in favor of a contemporary service that does not appear to be, or sound like, a Church service. (For more on this subject see my article on "Liturgical and Free Services Compared") Having said that, there may be yet another direction in which we could move concerning this statement. It seems there could be some who would mean they are intent on drawing closer to God, and moving away from what they believe to be merely "religious trappings" combined with worldly philosophies. Psychology, "feel-goodism" and love yourself, as a prerequisite to loving anyone else, are being taught from many pulpits in our time. It is right to reject these philosophies as they are contrary to biblical teaching. On the latter, Jesus said that we should love our neighbor as ourselves, indicating that we already (love) think more highly of ourselves than our neighbor.
Also, many who claim some sort of elite spirituality seem to worship a god they have manufactured in their head who is not the God revealed to us in Scripture; a sort of "designed-it-myself" god. So, it can be seen that there is quite a difference in being merely spiritual and in worshiping the God of Scripture in truth and in spirit as the Bible tells us we must do.

5 Comment(s).

Posted by Shelli:

I beg to differ about your article on the liturgical vs the free services. I attend a church with the "free service" and do not feel like I am watching "a star".
Thursday, October 6th 2005 @ 8:24 AM

Posted by Shelli:

I beg to differ after reading your article. I attend a free service and to me it feels less like watching the star of the service than when I attend a more structured service. The only structure we have is the singing in the beginning and the blessing at the end. Our services are filled with teaching from the pastor as well as interaction
Thursday, October 6th 2005 @ 8:30 AM

Posted by Shelli:

sorry about the double posting
The interaction in our service is in the way of prayer for others, and the nations.
Thursday, October 6th 2005 @ 10:28 AM

Posted by Called Servant:

Thank you for your contribution, Shelli. It is very much appreciated.
Friday, October 7th 2005 @ 11:59 AM

Posted by Shelli:

Jerry,
Thank you so much for your advice. I truly believe that David is the head of my home and I trust that God will settle this. My husband has a tendency to want to hurry into things he hasn't fully thought out. We discussed this over lunch today and he wants to move forward on mission work. I encouraged him to look into a longer term assigment than the ones our church sends out (1 wk or 2) and to take the girls on a trip as well so that the family can make a move that is well thought out instead of hasty. I will continue to pray for him, I don't want him giving up on his calling. I know God will lead him to do the job he'd have him do. I am just urging caution so that Dave is not the one deciding the path, but instead God is. Thank you again for your insight.
Friday, October 14th 2005 @ 12:26 PM

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